Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Oslos Gaza-bøller forklarer seg.



Møt Tony Andrè Thorstensen Tony Andrè er 15 år gammel, og liker å drive hærverk på fritiden. Fordi det er gøy:

- Jeg gjorde ikke så mye, rev ned noen søppelkasser og sånn. Jeg var med for å skape kaos egentlig, sier Tony Andrè Thorstensen. - Fordi vi plutselig fikk mulighet til å gjøre det vi ville, selvølgelig møter jeg opp da. Og litt for å støtte Palestina.


Respekt for andres eiendom er heller ikke å spore:

Han sier han ikke angrer på sine handlinger og at han gjerne kunne gjort det samme en gang til. - Jeg bryr meg ikke egentlig. Det er jo ikke mine butikker som blir ødelagt. Folk velger selv hva de gjør.


Konsekvenser tenker man heller ikke:

Han var heller ikke bekymret for at folk kunne komme til skade. - Folk må passe på seg selv, sier han.


Ja da så. Tony Andrè var altså en av bøllene som ramponerte Oslo sentrum. Egentlig fordi der er gøy, men visstnok litt for å vise støtte for Palestina også.

Så hvorfor holder Tony Andrè og vennene hans på slik? Er det fordi de blir dårlig behandlet av staten eller noe slikt? Ikke akkurat, i følge Knut Olav Almås:

Det jeg selv så, på noen få meters hold der i tåregassen i opptøyene både torsdag og lørdag, var tilsynelatende ressurssterke tenåringer med Midtøsten-bakgrunn, nesten alle i dyre merkeklær, men med jakkehette og Palestina-skjerf som maskering over ansiktet. Det var de som gikk amok og ramponerte alt i sin nærhet.

Monday, January 12, 2009

Mads Gilbert viser sitt sanne jeg

I tillegg til uttalelsene til støtte om angrepet mot amerikanske sivile 11. september 2001 viser kommunisten og legen Mads Gilbert mer av sitt sanne jeg. Han mener nemlig det er negativt å hjelpe sivile for begge parter i en krig:

Grunnen skal være at Gilbert er dypt uenig i at Leger Uten Grenser jobber på begge sidene av en krig uten å ta stilling til den. Han er uenig i den politiske linjen som føres. Organisasjonen er upolitisk og uavhengig.

Thursday, January 08, 2009

Hamas bruker aktivt egne sivile som menneskelige skjold

Det er visst mange som tviler på om Hamas aktivt bruker egne sivile som menneskelige skjold eller ikke. Vel, dere trenger ikke tvile lenger. Her er hva Hamas selv sier:

Fathi Hammad: [The enemies of Allah] do not know that the Palestinian people has developed its [methods] of death and death-seeking. For the Palestinian people, death has become an industry, at which women excel, and so do all the people living on this land. The elderly excel at this, and so do the mujahideen and the children. This is why they have formed human shields of the women, the children, the elderly, and the mujahideen, in order to challenge the Zionist bombing machine. It is as if they were saying to the Zionist enemy: "We desire death like you desire life."


BBC har en rekke artikler om emnet:

Tuesday, January 06, 2009

Uttalelser fra Israel om Gaza-krigen

Noen uttalelser fra Israel.

Israel is allowing humanitarian aid to enter Gaza whenever Hamas is not firing at the crossings. The same goes to taking patients from Gaza to Israeli hospitals. Most of Gaza's electricity comes from a power plant in Ashkelon, which Hamas keeps targeting with its missiles.
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The Egyptian President said a few days ago that he will only open the Raffah crossing when Mahmoud Abbas returns to Gaza.
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The Israeli Supreme Court has ruled that a pool of foreign correspondents will be allowed into Gaza, but the constant firing by Hamas on the crossings prevent this.
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We don't have pictures of dead Israeli children to show for the simple reason we are not using them as human shields. We are keeping them out of harms way. I wish Hamas was able to do the same.
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Israel makes all the efforts in the world to reffrain from harming innocent Palestinians. If it wasn't for Hamas' use of Palestinians as human shields, there would be no civilians harmed.
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Despite of many years of missile rockets from Gaza Israel kept supplying Gaza with electricity, goods and humanitarian aid. Hamas, in response, is shooting at the Israeli electricity plant in Ashkelon which is providing Gaza with almost all of its electricity and at the crossings from which goods and humanitarian aid have been entering Gaza. Even during the last days.
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All the moderate Arab regimes hate Hamas. The only ones to support Hamas terror ways are Iran, Syria and Hizbollah.

Bryter Israel folkeretten?

Ikke i følge Gary Grant:

Gary Grant, international law expert

Any country's first duty is to protect its citizens, it's called self-defence. The question is, is that self-defence proportionate.

Under international law, two things need to be satisfied for Israel's actions to be considered lawful. One is that they are aiming at legitimate military objects. Israel would say that they are striking at legitimate infrastructure. And of course Hamas is an organisation intent on the destruction of Israel and the Jews in Israel as part of its covenant.

"Secondly, is it proportional? ... It's not simply a case of calculating the number of Israelis that have been killed by rockets, to the number of Palestinians killed in these attacks.

"The question is, are these attacks proportionate to the military objective trying to be achieved? Israel would argue with some force that what they are trying to achieve is to prevent Hamas, an organisation set up to destroy Israel, from strockpiling the weapons, and it's doing that by destroying the infrastructure.

"If someone were to run at me, a knife-wielding lunatic, I don't have to wait for that knife to enter my heart, before I'm about to respond. I'm allowed to take pre-emptive action, in order to stop it.

"Killing civilians is tragic, but it is not against international law. It is accepted in international law, that even if you target military sites, you are going to kill civilians. If you fire rockets and missiles, that is what is going to happen.

"But in this case, it is not the deliberate targeting of civilians, it is the targeting of infrastructure and military targets. Civilians tragically do get caught up in it. It needs to be contrasted with Hamas, where every single target is at a civilian population.

"The UN can do very little to intervene, and with the UK and US with the power of a veto, nothing is going to happen.

Hamas hindrer nødhjelp fra å komme inn i Gaza

De modige Hamas-krigerne har stengt grensen og nekter å gjenåpne den:

Egyptian authorities said the guards who were manning the Palestinian side of the border had abandoned their posts. Aid workers and drivers banged on the gate to protest the closure.

An official with the humanitarian group World Vision also confirmed that report, saying: "Unfortunately today, they closed the border, so no aid entered Gaza today."

Mads Gilbert og Erik Fosse innrømmer propaganda

Den gamle kommunisten Mads Gilbert er nede i Gaza for å hjelpe til. Dessverre blir det heller lite tid til det han får så mye skryt for. I stedet er det propagandaen han står for, i følge Erik Fosse:

Vi snakker med pressen hele tiden, istedenfor å operere


Og:

Jeg tror det er det viktigste Mads og jeg har gjort. At vi ødela hele den mediestrategien til Israel med dette her.


Dette er samme mann som sendte SMS med en uriktig påstand om et angrep på et grønnsaksmarked og vill spekulasjon om rene henrettelser (hvorfor skulle Israel gidde å bruke en masse tid på å samle folk sammen når de bare kan sende bomber og fjerne hele gjengen uten å måtte anstrenge seg?).

Gjengen kommunisten Mads Gilbert støtter er denne:

The terrorists have learned how to exploit the morality of democracies against those who do not want to kill civilians, even enemy civilians. In one recent incident, Israeli intelligence learned that a particular house was being used to manufacture and store rockets. It was a clear military target since their rockets were being fired at Israeli civilians. But the house was also being lived in by a family. So the Israeli military phoned the house, informed the owner that it was a military target, and gave him thirty minutes to leave with his family before the house was attacked. The owner called Hamas, which immediately sent dozens of mothers carrying babies to stand on the roof of the house.


Man kan jo betvile denne historien hvis man vil, men Hamas har en sterk tradisjon med å bruke egne sivile som skjold.

Gilbert kom også med en annen interessant kommentar, om at det særlig er skader i beina de får inn. Dette passer vel bedre inn under Hamas' miner enn Israels bomber? Sistnevnte ville skadet andre ting enn først og fremst beina.